Episode Host

Rob Zinkan

Rob Zinkan

Rob Zinkan has been with Indiana University for 15 years and is currently in a system-wide role as associate vice president for marketing – working to develop, champion, and deploy the university’s brand strategy; leading IU’s internal full-service marketing agency; and serving as marketing liaison to the flagship campus leadership and marketing community. Previously, he worked at the campus level as vice chancellor for external affairs at Indiana University East and assistant dean for advancement at Indiana University–Purdue University Columbus (IUPUC). Rob earned his bachelor's degree from Wabash College, master's from Xavier University, and doctorate from Creighton University. He serves on the CASE Commission on Communications and Marketing, contributes to Inside Higher Ed's Call to Action blog, and is a past chair of CASE Indiana.


Esther Choy

Esther Choy is president and chief story facilitator of the Leadership Story Lab and author of the 2017 book Let the Story Do the Work: The Art of Storytelling for Business Success. She founded the Leadership Story Lab in 2010 to help others leverage the art of persuasive storytelling to create extraordinary opportunities.

Her own fascination with story began when she served as a designer and teacher of leadership programs and as a business school admissions officer. She has been an admissions officer at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and has taught leadership courses for undergraduates at Northwestern University, where she earned her MBA at its Kellogg School of Management.